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The Debian Conference 2025 in Brest

07.2025
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It's Sunday and I'm now sitting in the train from Brest to Paris where I will be changing to Germany, on the way back from the annual Debian conference. A full week of presentations, discussions, talks and socializing is laying behind me and my head is still spinning from the intensity.

Pollito and the gang of DebConf mascots wearing their conference badges
Pollito and the gang of DebConf mascots wearing their conference badges (photo: Christoph Berg)

Sunday, July 13th

It started last Sunday with traveling to the conference. I got on the Eurostar in Duisburg and we left on time, but even before reaching Cologne, the train was already one hour delayed for external reasons, collecting yet another hour between Aachen and Liege for its own technical problems. "The train driver is working on trying to fix the problem." My original schedule had well over two hours for changing train stations in Paris, but being that late, I missed the connection to Brest in Montparnasse. At least in the end, the total delay was only one hour when finally arriving at the destination. Due to the French julliet quatorze fireworks approaching, buses in Brest were rerouted, but I managed to catch the right bus to the conference venue, already meeting a few Debian people on the way.

The conference was hosted at the IMT Atlantique Brest campus, giving the event a nice university touch. I arrived shortly after 10 in the evening and after settling down a bit, got on one of the "magic" buses for transportation to the camping site where half of the attendees where stationed. I shared a mobile home with three other Debianites, where I got a small room for myself.

Monday, July 14th

Next morning, we took the bus back to the venue with a small breakfast and the opening session where Enrico Zini invited me to come to his and Nicolas Dandrimont's session about Debian community governance and curation, which I gladly did. Many ideas about conflict moderation and community steering were floated around. I hope some of that can be put into effect to make flamewars on the mailing lists less heated and more directed. After that, I attended Olly Betts' "Stemming with Snowball" session, which is the stemmer used also in PostgreSQL. Text search is one of the areas in PostgreSQL that I never really looked closely at, including the integration into the postgresql-common package, so it was nice to get more information about that.

In preparation for the conference, a few of us Ham radio operators in Debian had decided to bring some radio gear to DebConf this year in order to perhaps spark more interest for our hobby among the fellow geeks. In the afternoon after the talks, I found a quieter spot just outside of the main hall and set up a shortwave antenna by attaching a 10m mast to one of the park benches there. The 40m band was still pretty much closed, but I could work a few stations from England, just across the channel from Bretagne, answering questions from interested passing-by Debian people between the contacts. Over time, the band opened and more European stations got into the log.

F/DF7CB in Brest (photo: Evangelos Ribeiro Tzaras)

Tuesday, July 15th

Tuesday started with Helmut Grohne's session about "Reviving (un)schroot". The schroot program has been Debian's standard way of managing build chroots for a long time, but it is more and more being regarded as obsolete with all kinds of newer containerization and virtualization technologies taking over. Since many bits of Debian infrastructure depend on schroot, and its user interface is still very useful, Helmut reimplemented it using Linux namespaces and the "unshare" systemcall. I had already worked with him at the Hamburg Minidebconf to replace the apt.postgresql.org buildd machinery with the new system, but we were not quite there yet (network isolation is nice, but we still sometimes need proper networking), so it was nice to see the effort is still progressing and I will give his new scripts a try when I'm back home.

Next, Stefano Rivera and Colin Watson presented Debusine, a new package repository and workflow management system. It looks very promising for anyone running their own repository, so perhaps yet another bit of apt.postgresql.org infrastructure to replace in the future. After that, I went to the Debian LTS BoF session by Santiago Ruano Rincón and Bastien Roucariès - Debian releases plus LTS is what we are covering with apt.postgresql.org. Then there were bits from the DPL (Debian Project Leader), and a session moderated by Stefano Rivera interesting to me as a member of the Debian Technical Committee on the future structure of the packages required for cross-building in Debian, a topic which had been brought to TC a while ago. I am happy that we could resolve the issue without having to issue a formal TC ruling as the involved parties (kernel, glibc, gcc and the cross-build people) found a promising way forward themselves. DebConf is really a good way to get such issues unstuck.

Ten years ago at the 2015 Heidelberg DebConf, Enrico had given a seminal "Semi-serious stand-up comedy" talk, drawing parallels between the Debian Open Source community and the BDSM community - "People doing things consensually together". (Back then, the talk was announced as "probably unsuitable for people of all ages".) With his unique presentation style and witty insights, the session made a lasting impression on everyone attending. Now, ten years later (and he and many in the audience being ten years older), he gave an updated version of it. We are now looking forward to the sequel in 2035. The evening closed with the famous DebConf tradition of the Cheese & Wine party in a old fort next to the coast, just below the conference venue. Even when he's a fellow Debian Developer, Ham and also TC member, I had never met Paul Tagliamonte in person before, but we spent most of the evening together geeking out on all things Debian and Ham radio.

The northern coast of Ushant (photo: Christoph Berg)

Wednesday, July 16th

Wednesday already marked the end of the first half of the week, the day of the day trips. I had chosen to go to Ouessant island (Ushant in English) which marks the Western end of French mainland and hosts one of the lighthouses yielding the way into the English channel. The ferry trip included surprisingly big waves which left some participants seasick, but everyone recovered fast. After around one and a half hours we arrived, picked up the bicycles, and spent the rest of the day roaming the island. The weather forecast was originally very cloudy and 18°C, but over noon this turned into sunny and warm, so many got an unplanned sunburn. I enjoyed the trip very much - it made up for not having time visiting the city during the week. After returning, we spent the rest of the evening playing DebConf's standard game, Mao (spoiler alert: don't follow the link if you ever intend to play).

Having a nice day (photo: Christoph Berg)

Thursday, July 17th

The next day started with the traditional "Meet the Technical Committee" session. This year, we trimmed the usual slide deck down to remove the boring boilerplate parts, so after a very short introduction to the work of the committee by our chairman Matthew Vernon, we opened up the discussion with the audience, with seven (out of 8) TC members on stage. I think the format worked very well, with good input from attendees. Next up was "Don't fear the TPM" by Jonathan McDowell. A common misconception in the Free Software community is that the TPM is evil DRM hardware working against the user, but while it could be used in theory that way, the necessary TPM attestations seem to impossible to attain in practice, so that wouldn't happen anyway. Instead, it is a crypto coprocessor present in almost all modern computers that can be used to hold keys, for example to be used for SSH. It will also be interesting to research if we can make use of it for holding the Transparent Data Encryption keys for CYBERTEC's PostgreSQL Enterprise Edition.

Aigars Mahinovs then directed everyone in place for the DebConf group picture, and Lucas Nussbaum started a discussion about archive-wide QA tasks in Debian, an area where I did a lot of work in the past and that still interests me. Antonio Terceiro and Paul Gevers followed up with techniques to track archive-wide rebuilding and testing of packages and in turn filing a lot of bugs to track the problems. The evening ended with the conference dinner, again in the fort close by the coast. DebConf is good for meeting new people, and I incidentally ran into another Chris, who happened to be one of the original maintainers of pgaccess, the pre-predecessor of today's pgadmin. I admit still missing this PostgreSQL frontend for its simplicity and ability to easily edit table data, but it disappeared around 2004.

Friday, July 18th

On Friday, I participated in discussion sessions around contributors.debian.org (PostgreSQL is planning to set up something similar) and the New Member process which I had helped to run and reform a decade or two ago. Agathe Porte (also a Ham radio operator, like so many others at the conference I had no idea of) then shared her work on rust-rewriting the slower parts of Lintian, the Debian package linter. Craig Small talked about "Free as in Bytes", the evolution of the Linux procps free command. Over the time and many kernel versions, the summary numbers printed became better and better, but there will probably never be a version that suits all use cases alike. Later over dinner, Craig (who is also a TC member) and I shared our experiences with these numbers and customers (not) understanding them. He pointed out that for PostgreSQL and looking at used memory in the presence of large shared memory buffers, USS (unique set size) and PSS (proportional set size) should be more realistic numbers than the standard RSS (resident set size) that the top utility is showing by default.

Antonio Terceiro and Paul Gevers again joined to lead a session, now on ci.debian.net and autopkgtest, the test driver used for running tests on packages after then have been installed on a system. The PostgreSQL packages are heavily using this to make sure no regressions creep in even after builds have successfully completed and test re-runs are rescheduled periodically. The day ended with Bdale Garbee's electronics team BoF and Paul Tagliamonte and me setting up the radio station in the courtyard, again answering countless questions about ionospheric conditions and operating practice.

Saturday, July 19th

Saturday was the last conference day. In the first session, Nikos Tsipinakis and Federico Vaga from CERN announced that the LHC will be moving to Debian for the accelerator's frontend computers in their next "long shutdown" maintenance period in the next year. CentOS broke compatibility too often, and Debian trixie together with the extended LTS support will cover the time until the next long shutdown window in 2035, until when the computers should have all been replaced with newer processors covering higher x86_64 baseline versions. The audience was very delighted to hear that Debian is now also being used in this prestige project.

Ben Hutchings then presented new Linux kernel features. Particularly interesting for me was the support for atomic writes spanning more than one filesystem block. When configured correctly, this would mean PostgreSQL didn't have to record full-page images in the WAL anymore, increasing throughput and performance. After that, the Debian ftp team discussed ways to improve review of new packages in the archive, and which of their processes could be relaxed with new US laws around Open Source and cryptography algorithms export. Emmanuel Arias led a session on Salsa CI, Debian's Gitlab instance and standard CI pipeline. (I think it's too slow, but the runners are not under their control.) Julian Klode then presented new features in APT, Debian's package manager. I like the new display format (and a tiny bit of that is also from me sending in wishlist bugs).

In the last round of sessions this week, I then led the Ham radio BoF with an introduction into the hobby and how Debian can be used. Bdale mentioned that the sBitx family of SDR radios is natively running Debian, so stock packages can be used from the radio's touch display. We also briefly discussed his involvement in ARDC and the possibility to get grants from them for Ham radio projects. Finally, DebConf wrapped up with everyone gathering in the main auditorium and cheering the organizers for making the conference possible and passing Pollito, the DebConf mascot, to the next organizer team.

Pollito on stage (photo: Christoph Berg)

Sunday, July 20th

Zoom back to the train: I made it through the Paris metro and I'm now on the Eurostar back to Germany. It has been an intense week with all the conference sessions and meeting all the people I had not seen so long. There are a lot of new ideas to follow up on both for my Debian and PostgreSQL work. Next year's DebConf will take place in Santa Fe, Argentina. I haven't yet decided if I will be going, but I can recommend the experience to everyone!

 

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